Thursday, May 13, 2010

What kind of person would turn their back on the church they attended for 18 years and was even married there?

Would you abandon your church because of public pressure or would to stand up for the church you attended for 18 years no matter what?What kind of person would turn their back on the church they attended for 18 years and was even married there?
I would and I did. They took a nasty anti-gay stance, and I told them to go to hell.What kind of person would turn their back on the church they attended for 18 years and was even married there?
Such an intensely personal decision would have to rest on discussion with our entire family. None of us stand up for something ';no matter what.'; There are always circumstances that change and truth that comes to light. Do I think that Obama knew the extent of Wright's idealogy? Yes. Do I think that Obama can think for himself and didn't adopt Wright's ideas as his own? Yes. Perhaps he and his campaign managers weighed the furor his membership was causing, and the way Wright was responding publicly, and the good he could do this country if he resigned membership and decided it was what he must do. I don't think less of him for it. He wasn't against the church itself, just got tangled up with Wright and all that fallout. I don't ever remember Obama bad mouthing the church itself.
A lot of people have recently left their churches of long standing because of differences on social issues/theological issues.





When a church, for example, ordains women into the clergy, a lot of the more conservative members have left (some had attended for many more than 18 years!!. Or if their churches admitted gay members or perform gay marriages...





Sometimes not only members but whole congregations have left to found new churches...So do not single out Obama. You right wing nuts have walked out on your churches too.
According to his own book, Obama began attending that church as a means of making political and community contacts in the neighborhood.





He left the church under political pressure and threw the pastor under the bus in order to get elected.








Based on the beginning and end of his time at the church, one would have to wonder what his commitment and convictions were.
A person who moved away from that community. It would be a pretty long drive every Sunday. Both of Obama's parents were atheists, so he probably didn't have too much religious identity until he decided to go into politics. We all know that religion is very important to a new politician. It is not easy to get elected in the US without saying that you believe in a higher being. This too will change in time. Thomas Jefferson hoped that in his time, but it still have not happened here yet.











';And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.


-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823';
Someone that needs to distance themselves politically from an angry racist congregation.





I don't believe he changed his beliefs, just his address.





@Lord Vader


Admirable to stick up for your beliefs. But that isn't the same thing. Did you stay at that church for 18 years, listening to anti-gay rants, and then leave the church and pretend you just never knew they were anti-gay?
Hitler!


HITLER WAS CHARMING AND VERY LIKABLE AND CHARISMATIC LIKE OBAMA. THAT IS HOW HITLER MESMERIZED AN ENTIRE NATION. MANY SEE IT IN HUSSEIN OBAMA, I DON鈥橳! OBAMA WOULD STILL ABSOLUTELY DECEIVE THE LYNCH MOB.


THE COMMUNIST PARTY USA SEEMS TO BE THRILLED WITH OBAMA'S WIN. IT CALLS OBAMA'S ELECTION AS A VICTORY FOR THE ';WORKING CLASS'; AND CALLED ON THE PRESIDENT-ELECT TO CARRY OUT HIS PROMISES, INCLUDING HIS NOTED COMMITMENT TO ';SPREAD THE WEALTH.'; ANY QUESTIONS?





';The Democrats sued me [Tom Delay] for being a resident of Texas. That's just like asking me for my birth certificate.';
ron: i'd rather he be agnostic than racist. at least then we'd be on the same page about SOMEthing.





well, he wanted to be president...the fire was being lit under his feet and he had no choice...abandon his church or abandon his political ambitions. apparently people will worship him no matter what though...
Some churches are full of emotional and spiritual hog wash. They are nothing more than political venues for unconverted leadership. They are not doctrinally sound. If I was born into such a church (which I was), I would definitely laud any one who changed to a better church (which I did).
I left a Church I attended for 26 years. They had changed from what they originally was. From a caring non-profit to a self serving business for profit enterprise. They ended up closing forever after that.
I would never abandon my church since I believe in it. If a person truly believes in something, public pressure shouldn't stop them. Obama is a woos
I would abandon it in a heartbeat if it was doing what I did not like, this is america, I am young and we dont take stuff from people anymore, so they would be bye bye, see yall lata.
The kind of person who thinks for themselves, and has come to the realization that they disagree with the church's teachings.
He joined that church for political reasons because it glides through on tax-free status under the guise of Christianity. He doesn't care one way or the other because he's a closet Muslim.
Because he wanted to LIE to Americans to get their votes.
President Barrack Insane Obama.





DTG
Someone who prefers to hide who he really is from the public.
I could no more turn my back on my pastor than I could turn my back on the entire white community.





Edit: Boy, that sure sounds racist doesn't it? But I'm sure that I've heard somewhere before...
Who are we talking about here? Maybe president Wright-Ayers. He might have gotten tired of what the preacher saying but from what I understand he didn't hear a thing. Either way I'm confused now.
A political Narcissistic snake in the grass.
I wouldn't have joined the church in the first place as it is extremely racist.
Only HE has said he abandoned it
An infidel.
I would never attend a racist church in the first place!
Roman Catholic Glenn Beck when he converted to Mormonism?
a person that thinks you're REALLY stupid and will fall for his socialist policies
But Lil Obama said he never heard a word. Man,he's got some kick a** drugs.

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